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April 8, 2024
Crossing Digital & Real Borders: Anand's App Innovation and Immigration Odyssey
Welcome back to "Leap with Japa," where we bridge continents and untangle the complex tapestry of international education. In this compelling conclusion to Anand's interview, we dive into the innovative world of 'Fly Born,' an app poised to revolutio...
Welcome back to "Leap with Japa," where we bridge continents and untangle the complex tapestry of international education. In this compelling conclusion to Anand's interview, we dive into the innovative world of 'Fly Born,' an app poised to revolutionize how travelers connect. Join us as Anand unravels the app's features, which are designed to pair fellow travelers and make journeys less daunting. We'll also navigate the turbulent waters of immigration, discussing the real challenges and mental strategies to cope with the long wait times for green cards. Anand's blend of tech ingenuity and candid immigration narrative offers valuable insights for students, travelers, and dreamers alike. Tune in and become part of this enriching global education dialogue. Don't forget to subscribe, share your thoughts, and perhaps, take the leap to test 'Fly Born' as it nears its launch. Let's leap forward together!
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Podcast Interview with Anand 0
U1
0:00
Welcome to the leap with Joppa, the podcast that bridges continents and connects stories. Join us as we dive into the vibrant world of international education, explore diverse cultures, and share the extraordinary journeys of students far from home, whether you're dreaming or studying abroad. Already embarking on this adventure through other means. Libra is your companion, navigating the exciting, challenging, and transformative world of global education. Let's leap into today's episode. 7s Hello. Welcome to part two of Annan's interview. I must say, right at the top. Um, we had glitches with the recording of this episode, so part two would be the last one in this series. In part two, we talked about his app idea that he's currently working on, on his, um, immigration, his immigration experience. So thank you very much for catching up with, uh, part two of Annan's story. We had so many takes, so many back and forth. It would just be two part to this. And then next week would, um, have three episodes to fill up for the interview series for April and will then catch up in, um, May for the next series. But enjoy this episode. I hope it brings you, um, information as much as it did for me. And, uh, thank you very much for being part of this, um, experience on this podcast. Thank you. 16s Okay. And then, um, I know you're working on an app that connects people. Why don't you just tell us more about what the app is supposed to do, what the name is, if it's available, if it's not available, when is it going to be available?
U2
2:07
Sure. So thanks for asking that. Uh, I'm working on a mobile app which is called Fly Born. Okay. 1s Right now it's in the testing phase, so probably be in a couple of months. It will be, uh, released for a prototype and then to the public. Okay. So the idea of this app is to connect anybody traveling from one country or anywhere, even within the country, who are traveling by flight. Okay. Connect with other fellow traveler. Okay. 1s Uh, so the idea behind this is a student who is going to another country. It will be better for them to, you know, get connected with someone who is also going to the same country, right from the same speaking the same language. The. You know, it will be nice to get connected. There will be good for anybody else. Suppose a student is here and their parents want to come visit them, right? And most of the parents, they find the language is different. The culture is different if they get connected with someone from their community, right. Traveling to the same place, they can become acquainted and it will be easy for them to, you know, feel secure and say, let's say okay, some I have someone, I have a companion. That's good. So that's the idea behind the app. 1s Um, how that works
U1
3:35
is there are lots of security implications for that. How do you how do you deal with the security? Because people would always want to use that to exploit that. So what is what is one way. Yeah. Because that was that was the first question that came to me. Like, if I'm able to access people I don't know, I can use it for all sorts of things.
U2
3:56
That's a good question. So what? Uh. The idea is you enter a. Username, right? You don't have to put your name. You can say cat and dog. Okay, there will be a name. Okay. Your phone number will not be shown. Your email address, your name. Nothing will be shown. Just your username okay. 1s So if I want to travel next month, okay, let's say I'm going to travel anywhere in the march from March 1st to March 20th. I put it okay. And another person who travel in somewhere in the same day they put it, I get a notification, the other person get a notification. Cat and dog was also traveling. Okay. So we message in that app okay. If you're interested you can, you know, reply and get connected and talk to each other. And you don't have to give your name, your phone number, email address, anything. Okay. It's it's let's say it's similar to Tinder dating app, but this one is used for, you know, connecting people who are flying from
U1
5:07
different time to the same location. Okay.
U2
5:09
Yes, yes.
U1
5:11
Okay. Okay, okay. So it sounds it sounds it sounds great. And then you have to figure out how to meet up with the person. Yes.
U2
5:19
And the interesting thing is if you want to meet, you know, you don't have to meet outside. That's your wish. You know, if you want to schedule a meeting outside, if you want to give you your phone number, that's your wish. But. Right, uh, meeting in the airport, that's highly secured place, so you don't have to worry about it. That's the best thing. Airport is one of the most secured place in the world. So
U1
5:41
you know. Okay, so that so you can meet that. Oh okay. So it makes sense. So, um, so what are you seeking? Are you seeking people to test this application? I know that's how we meant to be. You. You were looking for people to test location. Um, I'm hoping that people that are listening to this would want to test the application to see, um, how it works and also provide feedback for you. So what? Where who are the kind of people that you're looking at to test the application?
U2
6:11
So as I said, uh, students especially. Okay. Um, but anybody who's traveling for business or for leisure, for, uh, tourist, anybody can use this. But it will be more helpful for students because, okay, when you go to a different country, it will be helpful to have like a travel companion along with you. Especially, you know, if you're traveling to different language speaking country. Right. So when my app is launched, uh, the prototype, probably, I can inform you so people can download it. And,
U1
6:48
yes, I will be very happy to put it up as part of the. Episode link on when it eventually launches. Uh, if you go to a website or you're still. Yeah, it's still in the development phase. So once we finally develop, um, we can put it like a website, but it's more, uh, apt if you use like an app. Sorry, but you can
U2
7:12
also use like a website,
U1
7:14
a link, a link to an app download for me.
U2
7:16
Correct. Yeah. So it would be great if, you know, your listeners can download, tested give feedback. So before we launch it to the public, I can fix the problems and launch. Okay.
U1
7:29
Okay. Is there any estimated time when this is going to be all set? 1s Uh, my estimation would be two months from now. That's our target. Okay.
U2
7:40
Yeah, that sounds great. Okay.
U1
7:43
All right, I'll stop this now. And then we would
U2
7:47
be perfect. Yeah. 2s Okay.
U1
7:50
And one, one big, big thing with, um, immigration with Indian nationals is the immigration process. I know you're facing a notoriously long wait for the green card process. 1s Um, and a lot of people do not want to probably talk about this, but how do you manage this uncertainty mentally? And how do you keep your. How do you how do you keep focused on your goals? Because this is this is this is where the rubber meets the road. This is real life. This is not a movie anymore. So how do you how do you deal with that?
U2
8:25
Yeah, I, I would, I would get retired before I get a green card if I wait so long. Wow. It's a long way.
U1
8:33
It's that I know right now they're probably processing 2012.
U2
8:38
Uh, yeah, I
U1
8:39
140 and 2012 now is 12 years, but we know it's not a 12 year wait. That's just 12 years before they start even looking. At your. So how do you how do you manage that? Because I'm sure you know you have the H-1b, you're on a H-1b visa, you probably have your I-40 approved, but you can't do anything. You you really, you know, can't do
U2
9:05
it. 1s So how do you manage my my situation is different because, um, 1s after graduation I started working with Opt. Okay. And then I got my H-1b, right. I was working with the company called, uh, Morelli in North Carolina. Okay. 2s I got the I want 40 approved. At the same time, I decided, okay, I want to go back to India, get settled there. 2020. Yeah, I, I told okay, you know, you can cancel. I don't want it. That's the worst thing I did. I shouldn't have cancelled it. I should have let it be right. But I canceled it. And then I went to India. But again, I want to. After a year or two in the India, I wanted to move back to the US, and. Oh, it's, uh,
U1
10:03
that's 1s that's interesting. Yeah. So so you you were an opt, right? And then you you did. You did before moving back to India. Did you get the H-1b first or were you an opt Stem.
U2
10:18
So I graduated in 2015.
U1
10:21
Okay, then
U2
10:22
I was working on Oppt.
U1
10:24
Okay. Uh, 2018, I
U2
10:28
got my H-1b.
U1
10:30
Okay.
U2
10:32
Uh, the first time the H1-b got rejected, but the second time, fortunately, it's a lottery system, so I like it.
U1
10:39
Yeah. So 2018, I got H-1b, then I moved to a different company. Okay. Uh, 2020. 1s That company sponsored for I want 40. Okay.
U2
10:52
They started the process. Then I decided I wanted to go back to India.
U1
10:56
Oh, no. Yeah. Yes. For you. Stop the process.
U2
11:02
Yes, yes. That's,
U1
11:04
uh, India.
U2
11:06
For some reason, I thought, okay, I'm not coming back to the US again, so I don't want it. But now I am here. After one year in India, I wanted to move back to the US.
U1
11:16
Oh, wow. On the same H-1b. So you you recaptured your H-1b? Yes. That you had. So this time what happened is. 1s Nobody from. Let's say you moved out of the US. Yes. No company wants to sponsor H-1b to bring a candidate back to the US. That's
U2
11:36
true. But
U1
11:37
fortunately, yes. On LinkedIn, I contacted my production supervisor in in my previous company. He was. So, man, I want to say thank you to that guy. His name is Jason. And, uh, okay. You know, I contacted him and I asked him, hey, is there any job opportunity? I would like to come back to the U.S.. Wow. He was like, okay, come back. You know, I can arrange for an interview I will sponsor for H-1b. That was great of him. So I moved back to the US in 2022. Okay. So the good thing is the H-1b. If you leave the country, it stops right there. Once you come back to the country, it will resume. So yeah, you get a total of six years of H-1b. Within that six years you need to apply for. I want 40 I mean, the lawyer has to sponsor for I won 40, right?
U2
12:33
Then 2022, I came back to the US and now 1s I joined another company. Now currently I'm with GCN. Okay, so GCN has to sponsor me for A1 40 okay. Usually the company policy is the employee has to stay for at least one year before they can sponsor.
U1
12:54
Every company has their own internal policies.
U2
12:56
Yeah. Correct. Yeah. So I have I'm just waiting probably in a couple of months they will start the process. And yeah, before the end of my six years H1-b hopefully I 140 process should be you know started and it should be on
U1
13:12
track. Okay. Okay. So how do you how do you hope to manage that? I simply ignore it.
U2
13:21
The first thing right now I just want to get the I want for the process started.
U1
13:26
Okay.
U2
13:28
Getting a green card, that's a completely different ballgame. I don't want to even think about it right? Right. If you think about it, you know it mentally. You will get dejected. And you know you don't want to think about it
U1
13:41
right now. All you have to do is, okay, I'm on a visa, right? As long as I'm on a visa. You know, I'm doing my job well, yeah. Even if you lose a job, you know, you have three months. Within the three months, you have to get another job. Yeah. And USA has a lot of opportunities. Right. I know, I know many companies they don't want, uh. People who are on H-1b. They want green card holders, right? But for me, in my experience, I would say if you apply for 100, 200, 300 companies, right?
U2
14:20
I'm not kidding. When I lose my job every day, I apply for at least 25 to 50 companies.
U1
14:27
Right. And you always get someone that will reach back to you.
U2
14:30
So someone you can reach out. So there is opportunity so you don't have to worry about it. Okay. Keep going. You know, getting a green card. It's it's not in your hands. What is in your hands is do a good job and develop your network. That's really important. You know, keep good rapport with your, uh, employers. Right. And have a good rapport with everybody so that even if you lose a job, there is somebody to lift you up, right? Worst case, what I can say. Worst case? Yeah. You know, you can go back to your country. Yeah. That's not the end of the world. So, you know, don't have to worry. Don't have to think about it. It's okay. Anything happens for a good reason. That's all. You know
U1
15:16
okay. Okay. That's a that's a very good positive outlook. I know there was, um, a particular Indian guy on Facebook. He posts on a Facebook group, um, that I follow on Facebook, and he mentioned how he had to go back to India because Walgreens was laying off and how he had a very positive outlook and how he missed his parents. And, you know, always good to have his his parents around and eat good food and run away from the Chicago weather. He was actually in Chicago as well for that. But but that's a great outlook. Uh, so looking ahead, what are your what are your aspirations for the future? Uh, but your career, your project, you sound like you enjoy manufacturing engineering. So what are your future?
U2
16:03
Aspirations. Yeah, I love what I'm doing. Uh, so right now I just want to keep going, move forward with my career, with the manufacturing. Engineering. Okay.
U1
16:15
So on the side. 2s Uh, future. I may have some prospects with doing some other things because, uh, my wife, she is an architect and event manager. So I can probably, you know, join her and do some even management business in the future. Okay. 2s I can also grow on my career. Okay. 1s I may do an MBA or if not, I can, you know, grow. In the corporate sector as a manager and from there. But as of now, that's my career goal. Like, I want to put in the effort and just grow in the career.
U2
16:58
Yeah.
U1
17:00
Well, thank you very much, Anand. Was a good, um, opportunity to speak to you. Thank you for giving me your time. We took a long time to get this sorted out, so, um, to record this, we had so many takes, but, um, thank you very much.
U2
17:16
Thank you sir. Thank you very much for giving me this opportunity. I hope you know a lot of students, a lot of listeners will get, uh, at least at least 1 or 2 benefits from this.
U1
17:27
Okay. Yeah. Hopefully too. Thank
U2
17:29
you. Yeah. Thank you.
U1
17:39
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U1
0:00
Welcome to the leap with Joppa, the podcast that bridges continents and connects stories. Join us as we dive into the vibrant world of international education, explore diverse cultures, and share the extraordinary journeys of students far from home, whether you're dreaming or studying abroad. Already embarking on this adventure through other means. Libra is your companion, navigating the exciting, challenging, and transformative world of global education. Let's leap into today's episode. 7s Hello. Welcome to part two of Annan's interview. I must say, right at the top. Um, we had glitches with the recording of this episode, so part two would be the last one in this series. In part two, we talked about his app idea that he's currently working on, on his, um, immigration, his immigration experience. So thank you very much for catching up with, uh, part two of Annan's story. We had so many takes, so many back and forth. It would just be two part to this. And then next week would, um, have three episodes to fill up for the interview series for April and will then catch up in, um, May for the next series. But enjoy this episode. I hope it brings you, um, information as much as it did for me. And, uh, thank you very much for being part of this, um, experience on this podcast. Thank you. 16s Okay. And then, um, I know you're working on an app that connects people. Why don't you just tell us more about what the app is supposed to do, what the name is, if it's available, if it's not available, when is it going to be available?
U2
2:07
Sure. So thanks for asking that. Uh, I'm working on a mobile app which is called Fly Born. Okay. 1s Right now it's in the testing phase, so probably be in a couple of months. It will be, uh, released for a prototype and then to the public. Okay. So the idea of this app is to connect anybody traveling from one country or anywhere, even within the country, who are traveling by flight. Okay. Connect with other fellow traveler. Okay. 1s Uh, so the idea behind this is a student who is going to another country. It will be better for them to, you know, get connected with someone who is also going to the same country, right from the same speaking the same language. The. You know, it will be nice to get connected. There will be good for anybody else. Suppose a student is here and their parents want to come visit them, right? And most of the parents, they find the language is different. The culture is different if they get connected with someone from their community, right. Traveling to the same place, they can become acquainted and it will be easy for them to, you know, feel secure and say, let's say okay, some I have someone, I have a companion. That's good. So that's the idea behind the app. 1s Um, how that works
U1
3:35
is there are lots of security implications for that. How do you how do you deal with the security? Because people would always want to use that to exploit that. So what is what is one way. Yeah. Because that was that was the first question that came to me. Like, if I'm able to access people I don't know, I can use it for all sorts of things.
U2
3:56
That's a good question. So what? Uh. The idea is you enter a. Username, right? You don't have to put your name. You can say cat and dog. Okay, there will be a name. Okay. Your phone number will not be shown. Your email address, your name. Nothing will be shown. Just your username okay. 1s So if I want to travel next month, okay, let's say I'm going to travel anywhere in the march from March 1st to March 20th. I put it okay. And another person who travel in somewhere in the same day they put it, I get a notification, the other person get a notification. Cat and dog was also traveling. Okay. So we message in that app okay. If you're interested you can, you know, reply and get connected and talk to each other. And you don't have to give your name, your phone number, email address, anything. Okay. It's it's let's say it's similar to Tinder dating app, but this one is used for, you know, connecting people who are flying from
U1
5:07
different time to the same location. Okay.
U2
5:09
Yes, yes.
U1
5:11
Okay. Okay, okay. So it sounds it sounds it sounds great. And then you have to figure out how to meet up with the person. Yes.
U2
5:19
And the interesting thing is if you want to meet, you know, you don't have to meet outside. That's your wish. You know, if you want to schedule a meeting outside, if you want to give you your phone number, that's your wish. But. Right, uh, meeting in the airport, that's highly secured place, so you don't have to worry about it. That's the best thing. Airport is one of the most secured place in the world. So
U1
5:41
you know. Okay, so that so you can meet that. Oh okay. So it makes sense. So, um, so what are you seeking? Are you seeking people to test this application? I know that's how we meant to be. You. You were looking for people to test location. Um, I'm hoping that people that are listening to this would want to test the application to see, um, how it works and also provide feedback for you. So what? Where who are the kind of people that you're looking at to test the application?
U2
6:11
So as I said, uh, students especially. Okay. Um, but anybody who's traveling for business or for leisure, for, uh, tourist, anybody can use this. But it will be more helpful for students because, okay, when you go to a different country, it will be helpful to have like a travel companion along with you. Especially, you know, if you're traveling to different language speaking country. Right. So when my app is launched, uh, the prototype, probably, I can inform you so people can download it. And,
U1
6:48
yes, I will be very happy to put it up as part of the. Episode link on when it eventually launches. Uh, if you go to a website or you're still. Yeah, it's still in the development phase. So once we finally develop, um, we can put it like a website, but it's more, uh, apt if you use like an app. Sorry, but you can
U2
7:12
also use like a website,
U1
7:14
a link, a link to an app download for me.
U2
7:16
Correct. Yeah. So it would be great if, you know, your listeners can download, tested give feedback. So before we launch it to the public, I can fix the problems and launch. Okay.
U1
7:29
Okay. Is there any estimated time when this is going to be all set? 1s Uh, my estimation would be two months from now. That's our target. Okay.
U2
7:40
Yeah, that sounds great. Okay.
U1
7:43
All right, I'll stop this now. And then we would
U2
7:47
be perfect. Yeah. 2s Okay.
U1
7:50
And one, one big, big thing with, um, immigration with Indian nationals is the immigration process. I know you're facing a notoriously long wait for the green card process. 1s Um, and a lot of people do not want to probably talk about this, but how do you manage this uncertainty mentally? And how do you keep your. How do you how do you keep focused on your goals? Because this is this is this is where the rubber meets the road. This is real life. This is not a movie anymore. So how do you how do you deal with that?
U2
8:25
Yeah, I, I would, I would get retired before I get a green card if I wait so long. Wow. It's a long way.
U1
8:33
It's that I know right now they're probably processing 2012.
U2
8:38
Uh, yeah, I
U1
8:39
140 and 2012 now is 12 years, but we know it's not a 12 year wait. That's just 12 years before they start even looking. At your. So how do you how do you manage that? Because I'm sure you know you have the H-1b, you're on a H-1b visa, you probably have your I-40 approved, but you can't do anything. You you really, you know, can't do
U2
9:05
it. 1s So how do you manage my my situation is different because, um, 1s after graduation I started working with Opt. Okay. And then I got my H-1b, right. I was working with the company called, uh, Morelli in North Carolina. Okay. 2s I got the I want 40 approved. At the same time, I decided, okay, I want to go back to India, get settled there. 2020. Yeah, I, I told okay, you know, you can cancel. I don't want it. That's the worst thing I did. I shouldn't have cancelled it. I should have let it be right. But I canceled it. And then I went to India. But again, I want to. After a year or two in the India, I wanted to move back to the US, and. Oh, it's, uh,
U1
10:03
that's 1s that's interesting. Yeah. So so you you were an opt, right? And then you you did. You did before moving back to India. Did you get the H-1b first or were you an opt Stem.
U2
10:18
So I graduated in 2015.
U1
10:21
Okay, then
U2
10:22
I was working on Oppt.
U1
10:24
Okay. Uh, 2018, I
U2
10:28
got my H-1b.
U1
10:30
Okay.
U2
10:32
Uh, the first time the H1-b got rejected, but the second time, fortunately, it's a lottery system, so I like it.
U1
10:39
Yeah. So 2018, I got H-1b, then I moved to a different company. Okay. Uh, 2020. 1s That company sponsored for I want 40. Okay.
U2
10:52
They started the process. Then I decided I wanted to go back to India.
U1
10:56
Oh, no. Yeah. Yes. For you. Stop the process.
U2
11:02
Yes, yes. That's,
U1
11:04
uh, India.
U2
11:06
For some reason, I thought, okay, I'm not coming back to the US again, so I don't want it. But now I am here. After one year in India, I wanted to move back to the US.
U1
11:16
Oh, wow. On the same H-1b. So you you recaptured your H-1b? Yes. That you had. So this time what happened is. 1s Nobody from. Let's say you moved out of the US. Yes. No company wants to sponsor H-1b to bring a candidate back to the US. That's
U2
11:36
true. But
U1
11:37
fortunately, yes. On LinkedIn, I contacted my production supervisor in in my previous company. He was. So, man, I want to say thank you to that guy. His name is Jason. And, uh, okay. You know, I contacted him and I asked him, hey, is there any job opportunity? I would like to come back to the U.S.. Wow. He was like, okay, come back. You know, I can arrange for an interview I will sponsor for H-1b. That was great of him. So I moved back to the US in 2022. Okay. So the good thing is the H-1b. If you leave the country, it stops right there. Once you come back to the country, it will resume. So yeah, you get a total of six years of H-1b. Within that six years you need to apply for. I want 40 I mean, the lawyer has to sponsor for I won 40, right?
U2
12:33
Then 2022, I came back to the US and now 1s I joined another company. Now currently I'm with GCN. Okay, so GCN has to sponsor me for A1 40 okay. Usually the company policy is the employee has to stay for at least one year before they can sponsor.
U1
12:54
Every company has their own internal policies.
U2
12:56
Yeah. Correct. Yeah. So I have I'm just waiting probably in a couple of months they will start the process. And yeah, before the end of my six years H1-b hopefully I 140 process should be you know started and it should be on
U1
13:12
track. Okay. Okay. So how do you how do you hope to manage that? I simply ignore it.
U2
13:21
The first thing right now I just want to get the I want for the process started.
U1
13:26
Okay.
U2
13:28
Getting a green card, that's a completely different ballgame. I don't want to even think about it right? Right. If you think about it, you know it mentally. You will get dejected. And you know you don't want to think about it
U1
13:41
right now. All you have to do is, okay, I'm on a visa, right? As long as I'm on a visa. You know, I'm doing my job well, yeah. Even if you lose a job, you know, you have three months. Within the three months, you have to get another job. Yeah. And USA has a lot of opportunities. Right. I know, I know many companies they don't want, uh. People who are on H-1b. They want green card holders, right? But for me, in my experience, I would say if you apply for 100, 200, 300 companies, right?
U2
14:20
I'm not kidding. When I lose my job every day, I apply for at least 25 to 50 companies.
U1
14:27
Right. And you always get someone that will reach back to you.
U2
14:30
So someone you can reach out. So there is opportunity so you don't have to worry about it. Okay. Keep going. You know, getting a green card. It's it's not in your hands. What is in your hands is do a good job and develop your network. That's really important. You know, keep good rapport with your, uh, employers. Right. And have a good rapport with everybody so that even if you lose a job, there is somebody to lift you up, right? Worst case, what I can say. Worst case? Yeah. You know, you can go back to your country. Yeah. That's not the end of the world. So, you know, don't have to worry. Don't have to think about it. It's okay. Anything happens for a good reason. That's all. You know
U1
15:16
okay. Okay. That's a that's a very good positive outlook. I know there was, um, a particular Indian guy on Facebook. He posts on a Facebook group, um, that I follow on Facebook, and he mentioned how he had to go back to India because Walgreens was laying off and how he had a very positive outlook and how he missed his parents. And, you know, always good to have his his parents around and eat good food and run away from the Chicago weather. He was actually in Chicago as well for that. But but that's a great outlook. Uh, so looking ahead, what are your what are your aspirations for the future? Uh, but your career, your project, you sound like you enjoy manufacturing engineering. So what are your future?
U2
16:03
Aspirations. Yeah, I love what I'm doing. Uh, so right now I just want to keep going, move forward with my career, with the manufacturing. Engineering. Okay.
U1
16:15
So on the side. 2s Uh, future. I may have some prospects with doing some other things because, uh, my wife, she is an architect and event manager. So I can probably, you know, join her and do some even management business in the future. Okay. 2s I can also grow on my career. Okay. 1s I may do an MBA or if not, I can, you know, grow. In the corporate sector as a manager and from there. But as of now, that's my career goal. Like, I want to put in the effort and just grow in the career.
U2
16:58
Yeah.
U1
17:00
Well, thank you very much, Anand. Was a good, um, opportunity to speak to you. Thank you for giving me your time. We took a long time to get this sorted out, so, um, to record this, we had so many takes, but, um, thank you very much.
U2
17:16
Thank you sir. Thank you very much for giving me this opportunity. I hope you know a lot of students, a lot of listeners will get, uh, at least at least 1 or 2 benefits from this.
U1
17:27
Okay. Yeah. Hopefully too. Thank
U2
17:29
you. Yeah. Thank you.
U1
17:39
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